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homologacion or reconocimiento


Dear all,
Continuing the discussion of homologation procedure in Spain. First of all: I am sending this to both the spanish and international MCFA list as I got very useful responses from people who are not on both lists. Furthermore I am aware a similar situation exists in much more countries (Italy? Greece?) so the spanish case may serve as an example an inspiration.
 
I have mailed my complaints to the Dutch SOLVIT office but haven't received an answer yet (it is still within the 10 days period). Nevertheless some more things became clear to me and some other less clear. I was not allowed to enter the application procedure at the university of Malag. A P&O officer told me that although she was not able to read my diploma (a document in english!) she indeed believed I was a doctor in biology. She said that with this title I could work at the university BUT NOT AS A "PROFESOR". The point is (as also other people pointed out earlier) that university profesor is a regulated profession in Spain for which they ask some kind of recognition of a foreign title. It is not clear whether they are officially entitled to do so - it would probably take a juridical procedure to find out. As Mark and the EU parliament member found out, the Commission does not say it is against EU law but this is a bit vague. If, on the other hand, they ask for a chemist or mathematician or anything (as happens in the CSIC sometimes), I am quite sure they cannot demand homologation or recognition: these are regulated on an European level and diplomas are valid in the EU, SOLVIT should be able to solve this.
 
I now have a question - I tried to have this clarified by the Ministry of Education and Science but they weren't very clear. As you can see on the web there are three things (I use the spanish names to avoid confusion): a homologacion, a covalidacion abd a reconocimiento. As I understand a covalidacion can only be used to continue studying in Spain but doesn't give any rights. My question concerns the difference between homologacion and reconocimiento. In the rules for the reconocimiento it says that this is enough for a job of university professor (or biologist which I find very strange) and that this follows EU rules. In my case it would be sufficient (at the moment at least). I have hear that this procedure is much faster than the homologacion, besides you do not have to pay the almost 300 euros fee (tasa de abono) so it is much cheaper. Does anyone have experience with this?
 
Finally a remark on a the message of Carl of few days ago. For positions like Profesor Contratado Doctor or Profesor Ayudante Doctor you indeed need an ANECA accreditation but I (and my girlfriend as well) received it without having homologated or even officially translated my diplomas. In the rules it says you have to but they didn't ask for it and I got the accreditation. And still they don't accept my application for a university professor! The difference is subtle: the ANECA has the (legal) competence to judge if someone has the PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY to become a university professor but not to decide if someone is legally ENTITLED to do so. Absurd.
 
We'll continue the battle!
Erik

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