Re: [mcfa-int] Intraeuropean fellowships-Negotiation

[Spyridon Kitsionas <skitsionas@DROPMEaip.de>]

Dear Antonio,

I was involved in last year's call for proposals for Marie-Curie EIFs and 
having had a successful outcome for my proposal we went through the 
negotiations stage before signing the contracts and starting the fellowship. 
I could just describe my experience. For something more official I guess you 
could contact your national helpdesk.

Before I start let me just add that as far as I know the evaluation process is 
slightly different this year with the two stages and therfore it may possibly 
be faster than last year. However, last year official results were only 
announced in mid-August. (I just checked cordis, they only have the results 
from the first stage evaluation, so I guess the process has not finished 
yet.) Negotiation started only then lasting for about a month. 

I guess this process is mostly a typicality for this type of fellowship 
(unless it turns out that your host institution is not eligible for hosting 
you which I pretty much doubt) in contrast e.g. to network projects where the 
negotiation stage means exactly what the word implies. 

In particular, for the negotiations in EIFs, the applicant and the host 
institute have to provide the commission with data that will determine the 
total budget of the fellowship. From your side this will mostly involve 
repetition of the data submitted in part A of your proposal. The scientist in 
charge should do the rest from the home institute's point of view. Just make 
sure he/she actually does it and of course in time.

Finally let me just caution you that the excel files the commission will send 
you to fill in for the negotiation stage will need some special attention in 
handling and in particular in saving the input data!

In summary I think that your absence will not harm your participation in the 
negotiations as this lasts for about a month and it is done mostly 
electronically between you, the host and the commission. Officially only the 
host submits the final document.

I hope these help.

Cheers,

Spyros._

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Dr. Spyridon Kitsionas, PhD Astrophysics
Marie-Curie Postdoctoral Fellow (EIF)
Astrophysikalisches Institut Potsdam
An der Sternwarte 16
D-14482, Potsdam, Germany
tel: +49 (0) 331 7499316
fax: +49 (0) 331 7499429
email: skitsionas@DROPMEaip.de
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On Friday 08 July 2005 22:55, ANTONIO JESUS MELENDEZ MARTINEZ wrote:
> Dear all, I'm writing concerning some doubts in relation to the contract
> negotiations of the Marie Curie Intraeuropean fellowships. In the website
> it's stated that the outcome of the selection procedure will be known in
> the end of July, and that the negotation phase will begin by the same date.
> If I'm finally awarded a fellowship I may have a problem, since it turns
> out that I'll be abroad until the 7th of August. My question is: is there
> any kind of deadline for the negotiation phase? I've read that firstly both
> the Comission and the host centre must negotiate the terms of the contract,
> and afterwards the fellows are contacted by the host centre to sign it. Is
> this really like that? I mean that in that case I'd be back in my country
> soon after the negotiations begin.
>  On the other hand, how long does the negotiation phase usually take?
>
>  Could most of the fellows begin working at the host institution in
>
>  October as stated?
>
>  Thanks in advance for your help, I'm looking forward to your answers.
>
>  Best regards,